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A podcast about the methods and metascience of developmental science, cohosted by Jessica Logan and Sara Hart. We talk about human developmental sciencing, including data collection, data analysis, research methods, and open science, as well as life in academia. Think about it like a lab meeting where you don’t have to do the readings and never have to present. You can find Within & Between on iTunes, Spotify, Google, and many others. ​Episodes are hosted on Spotify, you can visit our page there.​

S5E5: Should I take statistics classes?

Sometimes grad students or people who are advising them will ask us if they should take extra statistics classes. Most programs require a few, and so they wonder what the benefit might be for spending the time, energy, and effort to learn even more statistical methods. In this episode Jess and Sara will describe what we think the benefits are of those classes, and what classes we think people should consider taking as they make their way through their programs. We also talk about some special considerations for early career folks. Spoiler alert: Yes. You should take extra classes. Have a listen and find out why. ​

S5E4: What’s in a Job Talk?

Job Talks, they’re different from conference talks! Here, Jess and Sara talk about what we think is the most successful structure for a job talk; what to include and how long to spend in each area. We describe the purpose of this talk, and what you should think about when writing one. We provide some of our favorite tips for getting the talk ready to present. Hint: practice, practice, practice!
Email us letters about developmental science at ⁠[email protected]⁠. More episodes and podcast information at ⁠WithinandBetweenPod.com⁠. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer. Recorded November 23, 2026

S5E3: What is a postdoc and should I do one?

One question Jess and Sara get a lot is whether doing a postdoc is a good idea. Here, we talk about what a postdoc is, how long it lasts, and what kinds of jobs a postdoc can take on. We also describe what we see as the advantages and disadvantages of the position. We talk a bit about our past times as post docs, and what kinds of things you can do when you are there, and what kinds of grants are available just for you if you decide to go for it. 
In this episode, we mention this nice resource for postdocs:
⁠https://www.niaid.nih.gov/grants-contracts/postdoc-guide⁠ 
​Email us letters about developmental science at ⁠[email protected]⁠. More episodes and podcast information at ⁠WithinandBetweenPod.com⁠. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer.

S5E2: Staying Flexible

Well 2025 was a year with lots of uncertainty. Jess and Sara talk about how the funding landscape has changed for us, how it has changed our work, and how we are handling it (hint: it’s not great!). We go through ideas of how to pivot your work when there may not be new funding, and describe kinds of projects you can do with minimal outside funding. We expect that academia is going to be a bit different for a while, so we talk about how we can be thoughtful about that in applying for jobs, mentoring, and reviewing our colleagues. We may all need to stare out some windows for a while. 
A recent data sharing paper with repository resources! https://doi.org/10.25894/rise.2604.
​Email us letters about developmental science at ⁠[email protected]⁠. More episodes and podcast information at ⁠WithinandBetweenPod.com⁠. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer.
Episode recorded 09/06/202

S5E1: Moving is Disruptive Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

No, you’re not having deja vu. It’s a different kind of two part episode, one that is two and a half years in the making. Sara has moved to a new institution! And just to one up Jess, she has also moved to a new country! Listen to hear her talk about what it’s like to move institutions as a (ahem) senior professor. What kinds of things do you have to think about across research, teaching, and service as you’re deciding whether to and eventually planning for a move. And what do you do about email? Well, some of us made smarter choices than others.
Email us letters about developmental science at ⁠[email protected]⁠. More episodes and podcast information at ⁠WithinandBetweenPod.com⁠. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer.
Recorded 11/30/2024


S4E12: Authorship

It’s no mystery that research papers are essential for academic work. What IS a mystery is how to figure out who should be an author on those academic papers and how to have conversions about it. In this episode, Jess and Sara go over some authorship roles, guidelines and rules that govern authorship in the field, and talk about different ideas of determining order of authorship. This episode was recorded live at the Emerging Perspectives on Early STEM Learning, Development, and Education Workshop hosted by Purdue's Center for Early Learning.
 In this episode we mention: 
APA ⁠Standards for authorship⁠.
The ⁠Committee on Publication Ethics (COPE)⁠, 
The 14 CRediT authorship roles:  ⁠https://credit.niso.org⁠ 
The Authorship Project: ⁠https://repository.charlotte.edu/islandora/object/work%3A921⁠ 
Connect with the podcast on twitter ⁠@within_between⁠, or email us letters about developmental science at ⁠[email protected]⁠. More episodes and podcast information at ⁠WithinandBetweenPod.com⁠. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter ⁠@Saraannhart⁠ Follow Dr. Logan on twitter ⁠@Jarlogan⁠. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer. This episode was recorded October 19, 2023.  

S4E11: Revisiting Preregistration and Registered Reports

In this episode, Jess and Sara reckon with what the preregistration revolution means in developmental science. We first visited preregistration and registered reports in Season 3. Since then, we’ve been a part of many preregistrations and registered reports, and have reviewed and handled them as editors. Through that process, we’ve noticed that questions often come up about whether something is really a preregistration and whether some studies or analyses can or should be preregistered. 
We mention: 
Several definitions: ⁠Open Science Framework⁠:  “Preregistration is the practice of documenting your research plan at the beginning of your study and storing that plan in a read-only public repository”. ⁠APA:⁠ “Preregistration allows researchers to specify and share the details of their research in a public registry before conducting the study.” ⁠IES ⁠- no definition, just that you should do it; it’s part of the SEER standards.  ⁠REES ⁠similarly just says “REES is designed to increase transparency of and access to information about both ongoing and completed efficacy and effectiveness studies.” Even the⁠ preregistration revolution⁠ article doesn’t include a definition. The closest it gets (about ⅓ of the way through the article is “Preregistration of an analysis plan is committing to analytic steps without advance knowledge of the research outcomes.” 
Paper about preregistering exploratory analyses: Compares it to a funded sea voyage:  ⁠https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7098547/⁠ 
Connect with the podcast on twitter ⁠@within_between⁠, or email us letters about developmental science at ⁠[email protected]⁠. More episodes and podcast information at ⁠WithinandBetweenPod.com⁠. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter ⁠@Saraannhart⁠ Follow Dr. Logan on twitter ⁠@Jarlogan⁠. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer. This episode was recorded 9/10/2023.    

S4E10: Moderation

What can we say about the often used and often confused statistical approach that is moderation? Quite a lot actually. In this episode Jess and Sara introduce the basics of moderation (aka statistical interactions) using absolutely no math (or very nearly absolutely no math). Listen to get a primer on the kinds of questions you can ask with moderation, and to get answers to common moderation questions like: Why is my interaction negative if my main effect is positive? Can I interpret the man effect if the interaction is significant? Why is my interaction significant if my main effect isn’t? And how do I graph the result when I have continuous variables? 

Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer. Recorded August 5, 2023.

​S4E9: Common Data Elements? What are those?

Related to this podcast's interests in data sharing, this week Jess and Sara talk about common data elements initiatives. These are movements that are hoping to get all of the researchers in the same field or subfield to agree to a given set of assessments, measures, procedures, and/or reporting metrics (Think: Everyone who measures mother’s education would ask the same stem question with the same eight category responses, which would be coded and reported in the same way).  We’ll talk about different types of initiatives, the reasons why proponents think it’s a great idea, and what major concerns might come up. Sara also gives us a mini lecture introducing genome-wide association studies. Trust us, it’s related! 
In this episode, we talk about: 
The NIH Common Data Elements Program: https://heal.nih.gov/data/common-data-elements 
NIH Common Measures website: https://www.phenxtoolkit.org/ 
A paper about the NIMH common data elements:
Barch, D. M., Gotlib, I. H., Bilder, R. M., Pine, D. S., Smoller, J. W., Brown, C. H., ... & Farber, G. K. (2016). Common measures for National Institute of Mental Health funded research. Biological Psychiatry, 79(12), e91-e96.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4968690/
What’s the difference between common measures and common metrics: 
de Beurs, E., Boehnke, J. R., & Fried, E. I. (2022). Common measures or common metrics? A plea to harmonize measurement results. Clinical Psychology & Psychotherapy, 29(5), 1755-1767.
Paper describing the openly available Project KIDS data:
Van Dijk, W., Norris, C. U., Al Otaiba, S., Schatschneider, C., & Hart, S. A. (2022). Exploring individual differences in response to reading intervention: Data from Project KIDS (Kids and Individual Differences in Schools). Journal of Open Psychology Data, 10(1).
Educational attainment GWAS paper data harmonization appendix: https://static-content.springer.com/esm/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41588-022-01016-z/MediaObjects/41588_2022_1016_MOESM1_ESM.pdf 

 Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer. Recorded July 9, 2023.

​S4E8: LIVE EPISODE! So you measured something twice, now what?

Measuring change is our first ever LIVE EPISODE! Recorded at the Association for Psychological Science conference with a live conference audience! Over here in the developmental sciences, we are often trying to measure or predict how much people grow and change over time. To do that, we’ll sometimes measure a skill or ability twice (for kids, maybe that’s once near the beginning of the school year and once at the end of the school year). In this episode, Jess and Sara talk about options for statistically modeling and predicting change between two timepoints. We talk about two basic models: the simple difference scores and residualized gain scores, explain why we can’t just measure people at post test, and conclude that the question is important in making your decision. Have a listen as we get to take some related questions from the audience. 
Things we mentioned: 
If you are working in the latent space and have a measurement model at each time point, you may need to establish measurement invariance across time. To do so, you can follow steps in Brown (2015; pp. 259–265). 
Brown, T. A. (2015). Confirmatory factor analysis for applied research (2nd ed.). Guilford Publications.
Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer. Recorded May 27th, 2023.​

S4E7: Mediation

Mediation models! At their core, mediation models explore the relations among three variables: A predictor, an outcome, and a secret third thing they call a Mediator. You’ve probably seen mediation models out there in the published literature, with folks testing paths, seeing if a relation is still there if a mediator is involved, or testing for an “indirect effect”. Jess and Sara talk about all of this in this episode. What is mediation, what kinds of questions can you ask with it, and why are people so mad about it? Jess and Sara go over the basics of this method, including a few examples, and talk a bit about the controversies surrounding it. 
A link to Barron and Kenny’s Mediation paper 
A link to MacKinnon’s paper on Mediation analysis 
Some information on the PROCESS macros we mentioned. 
A link to the paper Jess mentioned on reading and math language. 
A link to the paper Sara mentioned on the home math environment.  
Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer. Recorded May 13th, 2023.

S4E6: The hidden curriculum at academic conferences (part 2)

In the second part of our series on academic conferences, Jess and Sara talk through the unique vocabulary of conferences (the word plenary, by the way, means “fully attended by all entitled to be present”), and walk through a conference day. Conferences are set up for those of us who love being around big groups of people, so we also talk about how those who are more introverted or shy can get the most out of the experience. Happy conferencing!

​Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer.

​S4E5: The hidden curriculum at academic conferences (part 1)

One of the ways the research machine operates is through research conferences. Scientists present new work, hear about others’ work, and (maybe most importantly) network with one another. In the first of a two-part episode about conferencing, Jess and Sara talk about what research conferences are and why you might want to go. We talk through how we choose which conferences to attend, how to plan your travel, and the importance of a comfortable pair of shoes.
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Connect with the podcast on twitter ⁠@within_between⁠, or email us letters about developmental science at ⁠[email protected]⁠. More episodes and podcast information at ⁠WithinandBetweenPod.com⁠. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter ⁠@Saraannhart⁠ Follow Dr. Logan on twitter ⁠@Jarlogan⁠. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer. ​

​S4E4: Broader Impacts and Dissemination Plans

If a scientist learns something new about the world but doesn’t tell anyone, have they really learned something new? Telling people is precisely the point of a dissemination plan or broader impact statement that the Institute of Education Sciences or National Science Foundation asks for as part of their research grant applications. Federal agencies want you to share what you learn with the world. You might be used to thinking about this as publishing scientific papers or presenting your work at academic conferences, but that’s only one potential audience. These agencies also want you to share your work with the public. In this episode, Jess and Sara talk about creative and engaging ways to share your work with the public, including playing video games for science!
We talked about: 
Dr. Jenny Root plays Mortal Kombat and talks about her research 
Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer.
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S4E3: Developing research questions

Developing research questions is one of the most challenging aspects of the research process. This one little statement reflects so much about the rest of your project or paper. Jess and Sara reflect on how they develop their own research questions, the challenges with research questions and secondary data, and how they help teach students to develop research questions in their own work. Spoiler alert: Part of the answer is to read. A lot. And then read more.  

Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer.

​S4E2: Fun with NIH’s Data Management and Sharing Policy

We love data sharing around here, and something exciting happened In January 2023: The NIH put into effect a brand new Data Management and Data Sharing Policy. Any grant submitted to the NIH must follow this new Policy, and each grant submitted will include a Data Management and Sharing Plan describing how the research team will comply with that policy. Have a listen as Jess and Sara describe the new Policy, and walk you through the parts of the Plan, with honestly a bit more enthusiasm than should be allowed for reading and discussing a Policy.
We talked about:
The NIH Website about their new Data Management and Sharing Policy.
How to budget for Data Management and Sharing in a grant application.
The decision tool - to figure out which Policies apply to you.
About selecting a data repository - remember, always choose a domain-specific repository when you can!
The Sample Data Management and Sharing Plans for different institutes.
The template for their Data Management and Sharing Plan (this will download as a document!).


Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer.

​S4E1: Moving is Disruptive

Since we last talked, Jess has moved institutions! In this episode, Jess and Sara discuss the ins and outs of her recent move and why she made the decision to go. We describe how a mid-career academic move is different from an early career one, the timeline of the hiring process when you do (and don’t) have a promotion as part of the offer, and some of the difficult nuts and bolts of moving. Learning a new culture, new systems, and getting new logins. And did you know they delete your email when you move?
Some resources:
What makes academics move? https://www.science.org/content/article/what-makes-elite-academics-move
Do you have a colleague moving into your department? https://miryaholman.substack.com/p/welcoming-new-colleagues
Other resources: https://theprofessorisin.com/2017/07/03/howtoapplyforyoursecondjob/
Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer.

​S3E11: The Annual Review

In most faculty jobs, the department or college asks you to stop and document what you’ve been up to for the past year. In this episode, Jess and Sara talk about the institution’s goals for this annual review. We compare notes on what the evaluation packet looks like for our two programs, and we find that they are… quite different. Finally, Sara has the inside scoop on what happens after you turn in the annual review packet at her institution, and folks it is fascinating. Have a listen as you’re prepping to do your year-in-review!
Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer. Recorded January 9, 2022.

​S2E10: Managing the Paper Queue

In this episode, Jess and Sara talk about managing all the manuscripts that they are working on. We talk about whether and how we keep track of those papers that are nearly done, partly done, or just an idea, and how that changes when you are a first author vs. a coauthor. We also talk about how we mentor students through the writing process, from idea through to finished draft. We’ll cover broad concepts and specific tools of the trade.


Mentioned in this article:
National Center for Faculty Development and Diversity
The Twitter thread about writing
Trello 
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Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer. Recorded January 2, 2022.

​S3E9: What is Heritability Anyway?

In this episode, Jess and Sara finally (Finally!) tackle the basic premise of behavior genetics. We talk about what kinds of research questions you can ask with genetically sensitive designs, describe what heritability is and what it’s not, and discuss just how it’s possible that scientists can use data from twin pairs to understand how much of the variance in some skill or behavior is due to genes and how much is attributable to the environment. A lot of that estimate depends on just how much genes and environments vary within a twin pair and between twin pairs (see what we did there?).


In this episode we talked about:


Sara’s paper with the figures that Jess describes: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41539-020-00079-z/figures/3
Here’s a cool introductory paper written for Frontiers for young minds that covers much of this introductory content: https://kids.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/frym.2019.00059
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Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer. Recorded November 28, 2021.


S3E8: Planned Missing Data - This Cell Intentionally Left Blank

If you’ve ever had to deal with missing data, you’ve probably wished you could avoid it completely in the future. So why on earth would anyone design a study where data are missing on purpose? When you set up a project, there are actually several advantages to selecting a subset of people to skip assessments, items, or waves on purpose. Jess and Sara describe those designs here, and just what the advantages are, as well as fun future directions for one specific subtype of these designs: The two-method measurement planned missingness design. Even though we start with a basic missing data overview, and you might think that missing data is scary or boring, we SWEAR this one is interesting.

Links mentioned in this episode:

The preprint on how to handle missing data decision tree: https://psyarxiv.com/mdw5r/
The paper that introduces the longitudinal version of the two method measurement design: https://doi.org/10.1177/0165025414542711
Menglin Xu and Jess’s paper in JREE: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/19345747.2021.1875528
Overview of different types of planning missing data designs in education research:  https://doi.org/10.1080/00461520.2016.1208094
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Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer. Recorded November 16, 2021.

S3E7: Parts of a Grant Budget

Why do you write a grant? To get money to do some sort of project of course! But how do you figure out how much money you need? Through a grant budget! But what goes into a grant budget? All kinds of things that you might expect (e.g., cost of the materials you need) and some things that you maybe don’t (e.g., Indirect costs). How can I find out what those budget-y things are and what they mean? You’re in luck, friend. That’s what Jess and Sara talk about for this whole episode! But Jess, why did you structure this whole show note blurb as questions and answers? Playing around with different narrative structures is both fun AND informative.
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Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer. Recorded November 13, 2021.

S3E6: Preregistrations

Preregistration is writing down your idea for how you plan to collect and analyze your data _before_ you actually start collecting or analyzing it. In this episode, Jess and Sara talk about the many benefits of preregistration, the differences between preregistration and registered reports, describe their experiences with it, discuss some resources, and (hopefully) put to rest some fears about the practice that you might have. 

Some resources we mention in this episode:
Sara’s blog post on preregistration: https://www.womeninedresearch.com/news/preregistrations 
Paper Sara was thinking of when she talked about distribution of p-values between preregistered and not preregistered work (it’s really distribution of effect sizes): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6470248/ 
Garden of forking paths: http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/research/unpublished/p_hacking.pdf 
Preregistration templates at OSF: https://osf.io/zab38/wiki/home/

Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer. Recorded September 12, 2021.

​S3E5: Trajectories have variance too!

Trajectory of heritability to the heritability of trajectories?
Measuring growth in skills and abilities over time is practically (maybe literally!) synonymous with developmental science. In this episode, Jess and Sara talk about how static measurements of a skill can have different variance, and different predictors, from growth in that skill. After a general discussion, we dive into how that plays into estimates of heritability, and the difference between the trajectory of heritability and the heritability of trajectories.
Our Response paper: https://psyarxiv.com/qtwhg/
Uchiyama and colleagues “Cultural Evolution of Genetic Heritability” from 2021.  Behavioral and Brain Sciences
Paper mentioned that examined the heritability of general cognitive ability across ages.
Sara’s lab meta-analysis summarizing heritability of reading.

​Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer. This episode was recorded 9/26/2021.

​S3E4: You are the search committee

In this episode, Jess and Sara talk about what it’s like to serve on an academic search committee. To those of you who are about to serve on a committee (maybe for the first time), we will take you through the whole process from writing the call to making the offer. Or those of you on the market this year, peek behind the curtain.
Every search is different! Things happen very differently from university to university, and even from search to search. We want this overview to give you, the search committee member, the permission to speak up and suggest changes from the way it may have been done before.
Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer. This episode was recorded September 18, 2021.

S3E3: All about that LDBase

In this episode, Jess asks Sara to talk about LDBase, the data repository she has been building designed specifically to hold developmental science data. We discuss what LDbase is, what motivated her and her colleagues to start building it, what makes it unique, and how it works. Sara even describes several excellent resources you can find on the website that make data sharing easier.
Go see it for yourself at www.LDBase.org
All about integrative data analysis: Curran, P. J., & Hussong, A. M. (2009). Integrative data analysis: the simultaneous analysis of multiple data sets. Psychological methods, 14(2), 81. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19485623/
Check out a paper by Sara’s team on a cool use of integrative data analysis https://psyarxiv.com/xqbc5/
Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer. This episode was recorded July 8, 2021.

​S3E2: What’s up with Els*vier?

You may have noticed that the cycle of academic publishing is pretty broken. Scientists give their research papers to academic journals for free, then the journal puts that work behind a paywall. Sometimes institutions will pay for a package of subscriptions to these journals, often costing millions of dollars. Jess and Sara talk about this cycle, and how institutions, journals, and individuals have started to push back against it.
On ArXiv: https://xkcd.com/2085/
About UC’s exit from that Elsevier contract: https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/6/3/18271538/open-access-elsevier-california-sci-hub-academic-paywalls
More on FSU’s exit from the Big Deal: https://sparcopen.org/news/2020/elsevier-exit-qa-with-florida-state-university-about-their-big-deal-cancellations/
On the cycle of academic publishing: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/jun/27/profitable-business-scientific-publishing-bad-for-science
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/04/the-guardian-view-on-academic-publishing-disastrous-capitalism
EndNote Click Extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/endnote-click-formerly-ko/fjgncogppolhfdpijihbpfmeohpaadpc?hl=en
Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com. Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan. Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer. This episode was recorded July 3, 2021.

​S3E1: Methodologists? What are those?

In this episode Jess and Sara talk about the role of methodologist in developmental science, and how it’s different from a statistician. A methodologist is a content expert and a collaborator like any other, and we do our best work when we’re involved right from the initial planning stages of a project. Why? Because nearly every decision made in a research project can have implications for statistical conclusions, and methodologists are the collaborators who keep this in mind. Think you might be interested in being a methodologist? Jess and Sara give some suggestions on how to prepare and frame your materials.
Resources:
Jess blog post on how methodology is a content area: https://www.jarlogan.com/blog/methodology_content_area
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​Season ALMOST 3 : Burnout.

Well the spring 2021 semester is over, and - what is this feeling? We’re a little (a lot) overwhelmed. Jess and Sara describe their experiences, and theorize a bit about why it might be particularly bad right now. Is the pandemic over here in the US? What does that mean for our jobs? That feeling of one day more can sometimes be too much. We end by suggesting, maybe, we all need a break, and to give ourselves, and our colleagues, some grace.
Ed Yong’s article about the “end” of the pandemic in the US: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/05/pandemic-trauma-summer/618934/
The Seven Year Postdoc: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/the-awesomest-7-year-postdoc-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-the-tenure-track-faculty-life/
A few articles about burnout:
https://www.insidehighered.com/advice/2020/04/28/advice-faculty-help-them-avoid-burnout-during-pandemic-opinion
https://www.chronicle.com/newsletter/teaching/2020-05-21?cid2=gen_login_refresh&cid=gen_sign_in
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/high-octane-women/201311/the-tell-tale-signs-burnout-do-you-have-them
Does anybody have a map - does anybody maybe happen to know how the hell to do this? I don’t know if you can tell but this is me just pretending to know.
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S2E14: Data Management Episode 2

The saga continues. In this episode we talk about the data management steps you’ll need to consider after you’ve collected your data. We talk a lot about data entry, including the science of how to do it well. We also discuss data merging, data cleaning, and the concept of “release” datasets. Finally, because it seems no episode is complete without Sara discovering something to be shocked about regarding Jess’s approach to science, we talk about the importance of backing up your data. 

Resources:
Recent working group on data management led by Tara Reynolds and Chris: 
Paper about data entry methods is new in 2020, and cites a whole (fascinating!) history of similar work:
Barchard, K. A., Freeman, A. J., Ochoa, E., & Stephens, A. K. (2020). Comparing the accuracy and speed of four data-checking methods. Behavior research methods, 52(1), 97-115.
A “merging error that went wrong” was actually an ID mixup, read about it here 
Sanjay Srivastava’s blog post: “Science is more interesting when it’s true” 
Data sharing paper by Jess and Sara and Chris

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​S2E13: Data management Episode I.

You might think “data management” is just getting data ready to share, but it’s so much more. In this episode, Jess and Sara talk about the expanded universe of data management. This is the first of a two part series, and focuses on some of the things you can do to help ensure you have good quality data before you even talk to a single participant. We talk about lots of fun data management tips and tricks, from creating research protocols, assigning IDs, creating variable names, variable codes, and coding missing data. Make a rule. Write it down. Don’t change it. 

Mentioned in this episode: 
Sara’s data management plan example: 
The Logan, Hart & Schatschneider paper on Data Sharing: https://edarxiv.org/2x3cu/
Jess’s data management slides. 
CONSORT diagram: consort-statement.org
A great data management guide by Reynolds & Schatschneider. 
Crystal Lewis’s training website.
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S2E12: Nurture might be Nature

Turnabout is fair play in this episode as now Sara describes her new paper! Some developmental science research is focused on how the home environment is correlated (or co-occurs with) children’s skills, behaviors, or abilities. Sara explains that these correlations are also influenced by the shared genes between parents and their children, and that the genetic correlation may be inflating the true environmental correlation that scientists are seeking to measure. In this episode, she describes a few different ways that researchers can account for shared genetic influences in their work. The solutions range from very simple to very complex, but all are very exciting.


Sara’s paper: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41539-020-00079-z and https://psyarxiv.com/j5x7g/
The developmental theory of gene-environment correlations: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6683622/
Interested in All of Us? https://allofus.nih.gov/ (you can become a participant!!)
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​S2E11: Factor Scores

ew Paper Alert! Jess and her colleagues have a paper in review about a particular statistical method that we see a lot in developmental science. Have you ever run a confirmatory factor analysis and then saved (or extracted) the factor scores, turning them into observed scores for use in another analysis? If you have more than one latent factor, the default method for extracting factor scores can have some unintended consequences on the correlations between those newly created observed variables. But also describes how you can correct it. The link to the paper gives you the code to do it yourself. This episode is a bit numbery and a bit technical, but we think relevant for developmental scientists!
Note. Posted with apologies to our reading research friends. Jess did not come up with good examples of what comprises reading on the fly in this episode. I am well aware a good fonging is in order. I do know better. I am sorry.
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Jess’ factor extraction paper: https://osf.io/zcsnv/
Sara’s math anxiety paper: https://jnc.psychopen.eu/index.php/jnc/article/view/5851

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S2E10: ​Within and Between Bites

To celebrate hitting our 10,000 listens benchmark, Jess and Sara spend episode 10 discussing two listener questions. First, we talk about the decision to change or not to change your last name when you get married. It’s something many developmental scientists struggle with, and we talk about how (even though it feels unique) it’s not terribly different from other professions. Second, we discuss that overwhelming feeling you sometimes get when you’re trying to manage your research pipeline, and how we (try) to (mostly) keep it at bay.
Ps, how do you say ORCID?
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S2E9: P-P-P-Pre-Prints

Are you open-science curious? Ready to turn and face the strange ch-ch-changes happening in our field? Preprints are one of the most accessible steps in learning about, and might we even suggest embracing open science. To post a preprint, you put a digital copy of a completed paper online, somewhere others can read it.  In this episode, we discuss the advantages of preprints, different ways to post them, and address some of the potential barriers and common fears we hear from other scholars  when we talk about preprints. 

Sara Mentioned: Gold, Bronze, Green open access 
Jess Mentioned: Overlay Journals 
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S2E8: Stop, collaborate, and listen

Jess and Sara are both advocates for interdisciplinary science, and interdisciplinary science means collaborations! On this episode, we talk about why we love interdisciplinary science and why some departments would prefer a more focused line of research. We also talk about the life cycle of collaborations, how we start them, maintain them, and let them go.

Links from this episode:
The Hidden Curriculum book Sara mentioned: A Field Guide to Grad School
The book Jess mentioned: Structure of Scientific Revolutions
The idea of the “Adjacent Possible” is in the book “Where Good Ideas Come From”
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S2E7: Goal setting

New year, new goals! Goal setting helps keep you on task, helps you work towards bigger goals, and can help you feel more successful. But many of us really struggle with it (cough cough Jess cough cough). Sara walks us through the goal setting system she uses, how it differs by career stage. We talk about specifics including what to include in your long term goals (hint, only the things you can control), and how to set up a semester spreadsheet. 

In this episode: 
An example of Dr. Esther Lindström’s ​three bears. 
Full Writing Workshop book pdf https://osf.io/z4n3t/ 
Writing workshop templates: https://osf.io/5qvpu/ 
NCFDD check if your university has an institutional account you can use

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S2E6: A few of our favorite things

For the end of 2020, we asked our listeners to name a few of their favorite things - favorite things about being a developmental scientist, that is. Our unscientific analysis of themes includes: Developmental scientists can translate our work into other fields, it’s very applicable to our parent friends, that the methods we use are creative and complex, and that working with kids is a blast (they say the darndest things). Jess and Sara discuss the submissions we received, and talk about a few of our own favorite things. 

​Links from this episode:
​Twitter thread with everyone’s favorite things is HERE. 
The Popular Science book on child development that Jess mentioned: http://alisongopnik.com/TheScientistInTheCrib.htm
Paper Sara mentioned by Dr. Colleen Ganley: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2016.01181/full 

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S205: Lab management and structure

What does it mean to have a lab, and who is part of it? In this episode, Jess and Sara describe their experiences with different lab setups and structures, and how they manage their meetings with students, projects, and collaborators. We discover that Sara has been using a lab management and productivity tool secretly for years! Our systems for working with our labs, projects, and students are always changing, and Sara might be a bit too addicted with trying to find the best combination.

Links from this episode:
Book about managing a lab that Jess mentions: At the Helm: Leading your Laboratory by Kathy Barker. The author also has “At the Bench”. 
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S204: Inter-rater reliability

As the semester draws to a close, Jess wakes up in the middle of the night concerned not with completing her grading, but with measuring inter-rater reliability for coding schemes. Reliability can refer to the agreement among raters, or agreement among items. There’s a lot of online discourse right now around reliability, but most of it is focused around the former: agreement among items. Over here in the field of developmental science, we’re often coding human behavior through observations, including implementation fidelity. With scales like these, reliability is used to mean several different types of agreement among raters: Training coders to a reliability standard, “in-field” reliability between pairs of raters, “drift check” reliability as you continue to collect data over time, and then overall or average inter-rater reliability for all raters and observations. Only after assessing all of these can you begin to examine reliability designed to assess agreement among items.

Papers to read about establishing and measuring inter-rater reliability:
Hallgren, K. A. (2012). Computing inter-rater reliability for observational data: an overview and tutorial. Tutorials in Quantitative Methods for Psychology, 8(1), 23.
Bruton, A., Conway, J. H., & Holgate, S. T. (2000). Reliability: what is it, and how is it measured?. Physiotherapy, 86(2), 94-99.

Also mentioned
McNeish, D. (2018). Thanks coefficient alpha, we’ll take it from here. Psychological Methods, 23(3), 412.
Raykov, T., & Marcoulides, G. A. (2019). Thanks coefficient alpha, we still need you!. Educational and Psychological Measurement, 79(1), 200-210.
Edwards, A., Joyner, K., & Schatschneider, C. (2019, June 27). A Simulation Study on the Performance of Different Reliability Estimation Methods. PsyArXiv. https://doi.org/10.31234/osf.io/xzc52.

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S203: Academic online professional presence

It is a truth universally acknowledged that an academic in 2020 must be in want of an online presence. Jess and Sara describe why you need to be online, and their experiences with social media, professional networks, and creating websites (and that twitch isn’t just what happens to Jess’s eye after 6 straight hours on zoom calls). The episode ends with our top three suggestions for how to get involved online.

Links from this episode:
Jess’ tumblr blog
Introductory tutorial on how to use twitter as an academic by Dr. Mindy Bridges
Dr. Jenny Root’s Facebook is @DrJennyRoot
Dr. Kelly Farquharson’s CLASS Lab Instagram page
Sara playing Super Mario Bros and answering questions on Twitch
Dan Quintana’s Tutorial on designing a website in R
Diana Abarca’s List of professional websites
Sara’s lab website
Jess’ personal website 
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​S202: Becoming a parent in academia

To be or not to be (a parent!) that is the question. One of our listeners reached out with a question about timing of starting a family during an academic career. Jess and Sara both describe their respective experiences with having children, how quickly they got back to work, and the pros and cons of the academic work-life balance.
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Resources: In case you don’t know what yeet means either.

Thanks to listener Emily Bibby for the episode idea!

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​S201: Catching up from season 1

In which we welcome you back to a new season of the podcast. Jess and Sara catch up on pandemic work and life. We describe the subtle and sometimes not so subtle feeling of being underwater that seems to accompany this particular time, describe how our online teaching is going, and discuss the different ways we’re translating and incorporating anti-racism into our courses.
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Resources: Many analyst paper Jess mentioned. Paper Sara mentioned about how when you measure something can change your understanding of developmental change on that thing. Paper Sara mentioned that’s a great qualitative study on Black mothers' perception of their child’s experience in school. A theory paper you all should be assigning in your developmental science classes.
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​Episode 12: Why are we here? And let it go?

Jess and Sara get a bit meta this week (some things never change), and discuss why academia is even a job. We walk through a fun and nerdy thought experiment: Is the Curriculum Vita a list of manifest variable indicators of some sort of latent variable of academia?  We discuss when and how we decide to leave a project lost in the woods. And think, for the first time in forever, about a project that we had both abandoned and almost forgotten about.

Here’s the “Ginther report” Sara talked about.
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Computer Tips for Academics: Episode 3

Episode 11: Perfection, Rejection, and Impostor Syndrome

There’s a close link between the concepts of Perfection and Impostor Syndrome, perhaps mediated (or moderated?) by experiences of rejection. In this episode, we discuss that link, and personify it as Sara helps Jess try to cope with rejection and encourages her to get some rejected manuscripts back under review*.
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Episode 10: Revise and Resubmit

In this episode we talk about rejections - paper rejections. Jess and Sara describe their emotional and not so emotional reactions to finding out whether a paper has been rejected, offered a revise and resubmit, or accepted. We also discuss how much we change a rejected manuscript before we send it elsewhere, how to craft a revision letter, and the urban legend of  papers accepted on the first submission. 
Resources: The blog post mentioned which discusses a different way to revise and resubmit a paper. This is the rejection party we mentioned.
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Computer Tips for Academics: Episode 2

​Episode 9: Our COVID follow up

In this episode, we revisit how we’re working during COVID. Topics include excellent desk space (Sara) or lack thereof (Jess), and how we are and are not balancing parenting and working at the same time. We also talk about preparing to teach at a distance, and whether we’re even allowed back on campus.

Resources: Vijay Sathy - On who benefits from a flipped classroom and how to make your teaching more inclusive. And Flower Darby on how to make virtual teaching more inclusive and connecting with online students. Here is the tweet about COVID rates in Georgia -  Purposefully deceptive? Or the default of the statistical program?  The OpEd Sara cowrote with Drs. Emily Solari and Tiffany Hogan about potential impact of COVID on women’s careers, and the google form to crowd source YOUR ideas/needs/stories.
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Computer Tips for Academics: Episode 1

Introducing a new segment! Jess and Sara record themselves learning about new ways to work with the computer tools they use all the time in order to do their academic jobs. We'll be demonstrating content for Microsoft Word, Adobe PDF reader, Excel, and Outlook. Have an idea of something you'd like us to cover? Send us an email, or connect with us on twitter. First episode is below:

Episode 8: Reviewing papers

Peer review is, for now, an essential part of the scientific process. Writing a good peer review is not easy, and we feel it’s rarely formally taught. We get no feedback on the process, so it’s difficult to learn. Listen to Jess and Sara talk about how they decide when to say yes to a review (and when to say no), how to schedule them into your work week so you don’t lose track, and what your job is as the reviewer. We also give some suggestions on how to get started reviewing, and how to ask to be on an editorial board.

References we should have talked about in this episode: PLoS one has a nice description. This came out in 2007 but is still relevant: Twelve tips for reviewing a paper, and also always read the individual journal’s guidelines, some want different information than others. And some that we did mention: Yourpapersucks and the submission page. Here’s Publons, the non-dinosaur way to keep track of peer reviews.
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Episode 7: Reviewing grants

Grant information continues! This time from the reviewing side. Jess and Sara talk about the process of reviewing grants for the big three US federal agencies. The grant reviewing process is an elaborate, multi-step process, which we will outline and discuss. Listen to this if you’re curious what kinds of things your reviewers are doing when they get a stack of grants to review, or if you’re new to serving on a grant panel and want a preview into what it’s like to be in the room.

Resources we talked about in this episode: The NIH Early Career Reviewer program.
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This is Episode 7. It was recorded on July 19th, 2020

Episode 6: Writing a paper: Processes, tips, & tricks for the (slightly) less organized

Writing is one of the loneliest activities. For some of us, it can be hard to keep yourself accountable, especially right now with not much of a regular schedule and lots of working from home. On this episode we talk about our paper writing process, how we go from an idea to a submission, and the wonders of co-writing. We are divided on the use of the phrase “dot-jot notes”, which google says is NOT a Canadian only thing.

Resources: The Writing Workshop book - Barbara Sarnecka, Bird by Bird by Anne Lamot, also Writing Science by Joshua Schimel.

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Cause of the week: Consider buying one of those books from your local independent bookshop (Shoutout to one of mine: The Book Loft in Columbus. Not sure where to go? Try this website, or you can specifically support a local BIPOC owned business, which you can find on this list.
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This is Episode 6. It was recorded on July 9th, 2020

​Episode 5: Grants, grants, grants!

It’s grant season! In this episode Jess and Sara talk about the way they approach writing grants. There are many different kinds of grants, so in this first grant-focused episode we briefly discuss the different funders for developmental science research, how to choose a grant mechanism to apply for, the general rules and process that we follow for any grant, and the critical role of ice cream.

​Resources mentioned in this episode: Institute of Education Sciences (IES) has their own webinar series, of which THIS is one, but also check out their list of resources. Jess has a resource on writing exploration-type grants for IES.

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Cause of the week: Consider a donation to 500 women scientists! They now have a fellowship to recognize, support, and amplify the crucial role of women of color in science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM). https://500womenscientists.org/fellowship-for-the-future-about

​This is Episode 5. It was recorded on July 5th, 2020

​Episode 4: The what, why, how, and hesitations of data sharing

Now required by most funding agencies, data sharing is gaining some traction in developmental science. Jess and Sara happen to love data sharing, but acknowledge that others may be more hesitant. In this episode we dive into some information about how to data share, and why if you try it, you may find out you love it too.
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We mentioned a few data repositories, here are ICPSR, RE3Data, Databrary, and LDbase (the repository Sara is building), all of which have data relevant to developmental science. If you’re thinking about sharing your own data, you can read more about data sharing with this IES guide, and here is more information about the FAIR principles of data management and stewardship.

Cause of the week: Consider donating to the Liberation Library Project, which provides access to books to youth in prison. They believe access to books is a right, not a privilege. https://www.liberationlib.com/donate.html

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This is Episode 4. It was recorded on July 25th, 2020

​Episode 3: Racism in the history of developmental science

 This week, we tackle the history of racism in our specific developmental science fields. We believe that Black Lives Matter. We believe it’s our job to do the anti-racist work within our own departments and fields. In thinking about actionable steps we can each take to work be anti-racist in the academy, we first acknowledge that we are two white women who can not speak to the lived experiences of Black, Indigenous and People of Color in the academy. See the rest of the show notes for excellent readings and voices to listen to about how to do anti-racist work.

In this episode, we use our platform to shine light on what may be hidden to many researchers in developmental science, the white-supremacist history that underlies both behavior genetics and statistics. Increasing our own understanding and sharing the history of these fields is part of our own anti-racist work. We hope this episode will encourage you to start to study the history of your own specific subsection of the field.

Some of our favorite readings and a listening list from this episode:
The Scaffolded Anti-Racist document that Jessica mentioned. Books: Superior by Angela Saini (*NOTE Sara accidentally remembered this title as Inferior). The Lady Tasting Tea by David Salsburg. So you want to talk about Race, by Ijeoma Oluo. (we suggest you order these books from Black owned bookstores)! Syllabus: Thinking about re-working the syllabus, read Approaches for Multicultural Curriculum Reform by James A. Banks. Podcasts: Acadames Podcast episode Sara mentioned. Twitter: Follow the #BlackintheIvory hashtag for stories directly from Black scholars. Remember to #CiteASista in your own work. ​

To support the Black Lives Matter movement, check out this link: bit.ly/BlackLivesAction

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Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer.
This is Episode 3. It was recorded on June 15th, 2020.

Episode 2: Day to day life and the COVID response - Part 2

Jess and Sara continue the COVID discussion, talking about ideas for alternative ways to collect data during the 2020/2021 school year, the reasons NOT to collect data next year, and some alternative ideas for your research. For those of you who do intervention work, we also discuss some analytic options you have if, due to school closures or forced research lockdowns, you suddenly find yourself in a pre-test only design situation.

Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. You can also leave us a voicemail with questions following this link. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com
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Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer.
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This is Episode 2. It was recorded on June 4th, 2020.

Episode 1: Day to day life and the COVID response - Part 1

In this episode, Jess and Sara describe how our labs operated pre-COVID, and how our sciencing has changed during the shutdowns. We also talk about the kinds of data we collect, and the different ways we collect it.

Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters about developmental science at [email protected]. More episodes and podcast information at WithinandBetweenPod.com
Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart
Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan
Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer.
Cause of the week: Consider donating to the Thurgood Marshall College fund to support HBCUs that have been disproportionately affected by COVID: http://www.tmcf.org/online-gift/
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This is Episode 1 (of Within and Between, not Star Wars). It was recorded on June 4th, 2020.

​Episode 0: Who is Within & Between

When one person asks for advice, you give it to them. When five people ask you for advice, you start a podcast. 

​In this introductory episode, we introduce our vision for the podcast, tell you who we are, and give you an idea of what you can expect from Within & Between in the future. 

Connect with the podcast on twitter @within_between, or email us letters with questions about developmental science at [email protected]
Follow Dr. Hart on twitter @Saraannhart
Follow Dr. Logan on twitter @Jarlogan

Our theme music was composed by Jason Flowers. Our logo was created by Nathan Archer.
This is Episode 0. It was recorded on May 30th, 2020.